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B The Savior will make several appearances before His Second Coming to all the world.
C The Lord has spoken about His final appearance in some detail.
From the web link above (..manual…36-second-coming..) section B item 3 vs section C item 10.
Looking at D&C 45. how can vs 48 come before 45?
45 is referenced as His second coming in glory
yet the event in 48 is included in the events prior to His coming in
glory. I think section 45 has it correct
but in my mind the coming to the Jews and the second coming in glory are the
same event… (August 2020 this concern was presented to the study group, via gab
and Yahoo email list with little response so far) (Crickets up to
As far as section B item 1. This
is not a public event so isn’t a concern in my mind as being in violation of
Mathew’s warning. However
item 2 is a concern if left in the current order. If we swap items B2 and B3 then Mathews warning
no longer applies. Looking at section 45 it looks to be a sequence of events, therefore they are listed out of order. B3 comes in
Vs 48,51-53 where B2 happens latter in Vs 66-67,
Making event B3 happen prior to B2. (to keep them as
listed B2 would need to be a private event)
Unless Antifa has driven the world back into
the dark ages, I assume the coming of the Lord to the
Section C needs cleaning up to reflect the Final appearance events only (When the lord comes clothed in Red, after having cleansed the world, just prior to His 1000 year reign)
From: http://clint-gray.com/millennial.htm (11/26/2020: I removed this whole section from the Millennial web page. From what I understand the only portion that is relevant to the final appearance is D&C 133:48–51)
Second Coming of the Lord: D&C 45:44,
Previous post>>>>. "When the Lord returns He will make some appearances to specific groups and then culminate His return by His appearance in great power, majesty, and glory, in such a manner that all the world will see Him (see D&C 133:17–22 and 101:22–23). Four appearances of the Lord have had particular mention by the prophets: two of these appearances will be to the Saints; one appearance will be to the Jews; and the fourth will be His final coming to the world.
I’m having issues with this
The Second Coming: the appearance to the whole world. As the Lord’s Second Coming approaches, signs will mark this epochal event. One of the last of these signs is the sign of the Son of Man (see D&C 88:93; JS—M ). The Prophet Joseph Smith said: “Then will appear one grand sign of the Son of Man in heaven. But what will the world do? They will say it is a planet, a comet, &c. But the Son of Man will come as the sign of the coming of the Son of Man, which will be as the light of the morning cometh out of the east.” (History of the Church, 5:337.)
Following the sign there will be “silence in heaven for the space of half an hour, and immediately after shall the curtain of heaven be unfolded” and the Lord will make His appearance (D&C 88:95). So great will be the glory and power of His coming that the earth will tremble, the sun shall hide his face in shame, the mountains will melt and flow down, and the waters of the seas will boil (see D&C 133:40–42, 49; 101:25). All that is corruptible will be consumed and destroyed by the brightness of His presence (see D&C ; 101:24–25). The Lord will wear red clothing, signifying His great atoning sacrifice and also His judgments upon the wicked (see D&C 133:48–51).
At this long-awaited day the Lord’s people will receive the reward for their faithfulness and endurance (see D&C 54:10; 133:52–53). Both the righteous living and the celestial dead will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air to be rewarded according to their deeds while the wicked are destroyed and cast into outer darkness (see D&C 88:96–97; 101:89–91). This will be the “great and dreadful day of the Lord” (D&C 110:14, 16)." :(H-10) Christ’s Appearance to Mankind, http://www.ldsces.org/inst_manuals/dc-in/dc-in-200-g-i.htm#h
The Lord’s coming in red: D&C 133 provides a summation of second coming events and highlights the Lords coming in red apparel (46 said: is this that cometh down from God in heaven with dyed ….48: the Lord shall be in his apparel, and his garments like him that treadeth in the wine-vat.) which fits here as His final coming prior to His 100 year reign.
133: 56 has the rapture event (56:.. the of the shall be ; and they shall come forth and stand on the of the Lamb,..) included in the narrative as if His coming in red is the same event as coming to the Jews… At this time I am assuming that D&C 133 is a summation of latter-day events and isn’t stating that His coming in Red is the same event as coming to the Jews (part of the rapture). 56 is not in sequence but is included as part of a high level summation of latter-day second coming events. From what I understand, that which makes His garments Red is the work of His wrath (Day of the Lord) upon the wicked. Prior to this work, the righteous will be caught up (the rapture: which happens as part of the coming to the Jews, which in my mind is the main event of the second coming) and will not be part of the cleansing.
So for now as a summary related to the Mathew 24
is a private event. The second coming event (coming from the east ….) To
the Jews on the