LDS 10 Tribes:

Trying to understand the Miraculous Return of the 10 tribes VS the natural gathering in of the 10 tribes

Which scriptures clearly point to the portion of the Great and Marvelous Work (GMW) dealing with the return of the lost 10 tribes as a body. Miraculous Return of the 10 tribes:

 This work is the portion of the GMW that Jeremiah saw and prophesied that, no longer would the Lord be known as the one who led the Children of Israel from Egypt…but he who delivered them from the north and restored them to their lands. (see Jeremiah 16:14-15 and 23:7-8) Pay attention to the reason stated in 2 Nephi 27:21 (show that I am able to do mine own work) for the great and marvelous work that is to follow 2 Nephi 27:26.  Notice that it is associated with the reason for leaving the book sealed until a latter date. All of the scriptures listed under this grouping will also fit under the higher-level gathering grouping but my focus for this sections is to point out the scriptures pointing to the specific returning of the lost 10 as a group.

Lion of Jacob (LJ) … with great power: Micah 5:8, Neph 16:15, 3 Neph 20:15-20, 21:12, Mormon 5:24, (all have the statement: …….” he goeth through both ctreadeth down and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.”)

Remnant: Looking at the Topical Guide (TG) This term seems to cover a variety on entities Like those gathering after a conversion,  to those that will spread the Gospel in the latter days even up to those that will be used to cleans the wicked (3 Neph 21:12, D&C 87:5) prior to the second coming to include this lion of Jacob theme.

Return of the lost ten tribes: 2 Neph 29 :13-14, AoF 10 We believe in …… and in the restoration of the bTen Tribes…

 "from the north countries," :D&C 110:11, D&C 133:26-34, Jeremiah 3:18; 16:14-15, 23:7-8, 31:8-11

Enrichment D - pages 11 & 12 (in part)

(D-6) The Return of the Ten Tribes

At a conference held 3-6 June 1831 in Kirtland, Ohio, the Prophet Joseph Smith explained that John the Beloved was then ministering among the lost tribes of Israel, preparing them for their return to again possess the lands of their fathers (see History of the Church, 1:176" D&C 77:14).  Five years later, Moses appeared in the Kirtland Temple to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery and committed to them the keys of the priesthood for "the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the north" (D&C 110:11).  It is apparent from this passage that though the main body of ten of the tribes is lost, there are representatives of all twelve tribes scattered throughout the earth.  This statement can be explained as follows:

 1.  When Assyria attacked the Northern Kingdom, many fled to the safety of the Southern Kingdom. 2.  When the Lord led Israel out of Assyria, some remained behind (see Talmage, Articles of Faith, P. 325). 3.  As the ten tribes traveled north, some stopped along the way - many possibly being scattered throughout Europe and Asia. 4.  From time to time the Lord has led groups of Israelites into other areas of the earth:  the Nephites and the Mulekites being two such groups (see 1 Nephi 22:3-5).  Concerning this scattering, Elder Joseph Fielding Smith wrote:  "One of the most interesting and significant parables ever written is that revealed to Zenos and recorded in the fifth chapter of Jacob in the Book of Mormon.  It is a parable of the scattering of Israel.  If we had the full key to the interpretation, then we would have in detail how Israel was transplanted in all parts of the earth."  (Answers to Gospel Questions, 2:56-57.) 5.  The scriptures teach that remnants of all the tribes of Israel were scattered among the nations of the earth and in the last days will be gathered out from among these nations and from the four quarters of the earth.  The remnant knows as the lost ten tribes will return as a body out of the north countries.  (See 3 Nephi 21:26-29; D&C 110:11; 133:26-32; 1 Nephi 22:3-4; 19:16; 3 Nephi 5:23-24; Deuteronomy 4:27; 28:29, 64; Jeremiah 16:14-15; 31:8; Ezekiel 11:15-17; Hosea 9:16-17; Daniel 9:7.) The Doctrine and Covenants clearly foretells the time when the prophets among these tribes shall lead the people back in a great and marvelous show of power (see D&C 133:26-34).  Jeremiah promised so marvelous would be this even that no longer would God be called the Lord who led Israel out of Egypt but the Lord who brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north (see Jeremiah 16:14-15).  The appointed time will come when the lost tribes of Israel will return to Zion to receive their blessings at the hands of Ephraim.  "This great gathering will take place under the direction of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for he holds the keys" (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 458).  The lost tribes, as well as all others who want to be numbered in the house of Israel and receive the blessings of the priesthood, must come to Ephraim, who holds the birthright blessings (see Genesis 48:15-22; 1 Chronicles 5:1-2; Jeremiah 31:9). Elder Wilford Woodruff taught that when the ten tribes returned, they would come to Ephraim to obtain the priesthood as well as their endowments and sealings (see Journal of Discourses, 4:231-32; 18:127).  Elder Orson Pratt stated:  "God is determined to raise up Prophets among that people, but he will not bestow upon them all the fulness of the blessings of the Priesthood.  The fulness will be reserved to be given to them after they come to Zion." (In Journal of Discourses, 18:25.) (D-7) The Lost Tribes to Come to Zion When the ten tribes return, they will bring their rich treasures to the children of Ephraim (see D&C 133:30).  Part of this rich treasure will be the records, which they have kept all these centuries.  In them will be found the account of their miraculous escape from Assyria, their journey into the land to the north, their history, their prophets, and the appearance to them of the Savior after his resurrection (see 2 Hephi 29:12-13:3; 3 Nephi 16:1-3).



Michael B Rush’s take on this: “….. For behold, the day cometh that shall burn as an oven, and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly shall burn as stubble; for they that come shall burn them, saith the Lord of Hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. (JS History 1:37)

Those that come are the lions of Israel, the righteous body of the Lost Ten Tribes. Regarding this mighty host that will purge the Lord’s vineyard before His coming, Isaiah taught the following, which was transcribed verbatim by Nephi into the Book of Mormon:

They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the Lord, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man’s heart shall melt: And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames. Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. (2 Nephi 23:5-9)

Isaiah’s words confirm that this mighty host was indeed grafted far beyond the confines of our vineyard, in the ENDS OF HEAVEN. There, in their place apart, they have become mighty.  They have become powerful enough to be described as the weapons of the Lord's indignation. These lions of the Lord come as the forerunners of the Second Coming, to purge the earth and "destroy the sinners". …..”

Return from off the earth Ref:

Isaiah 13:5, 2 Nephi 23:5 “...come from a far country, from the end of heaven...”

Nehemiah 1:9 “…cast out unto the uttermost part of the heaven”

Duet 30:4 “…driven out unto the outmost parts of aheaven, from thence will the Lord thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:


<<< ….return as a body out of the north countries…. >>>>

Is this an ET event (returning from off the earth) as Michael Rush believes? It does seem strange that a body of people, that fit the scriptures (led by Prophets, with their own scriptures, Waiting as a group for the word to return…) , remain undiscovered on the earth at this time.

Hollow earth explanation: At this point ET event makes more sense than a Hollow Earth yet that matches the scriptures better in my view.  (Highway cast out of the deep, shall smite the rocks, and the ice shall flow down at their presence…)

.  (… D&C 110:11; 133:26-32..) 

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Much of the latter-day work is centered on the restoration of the House of Israel and their role in the salvation of mankind bringing them back to a covenant relationship with God.

Gathering of the wheat from among the tares, prior to the burning: Alma 26, D&C 86:5-7

The earth will be cleaned by fire prior to the Millennium. Is this a single worldwide event?  Does it come in phases (2 prophets in Jerusalem have the power to call down fire…)

Malachi 4:1-3 aFor, behold, the bday cometh, that shall cburn as an oven; and all the dproud, yea, and all that do ewickedly, shall be fstubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor gbranch.

Ά But unto you that fear my name shall the aSun of righteousness barise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the cstall.

And ye shall atread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.


The remnant that believe in Christ as their Savior are gathered in 1 Neph 14:7, 2 Neph 10:5-9, 2 Neph 25:15-18, 2 Neph 30:7, 3 Nephi 20:18, 21:24, Ether 13:6-8, Hosea 1:11



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From the Topical Guide we have :

Israel, Ten Lost Tribes of

·         See also Israel, Gathering ofIsrael, Remnant ofIsrael, Scattering of

·         he said to Jeroboam … I will … give ten tribes to thee, 1 Kgs. 11:31.

·         Israel rebelled against the house of David, 1 Kgs. 12:19.

·         none … followed the house of David, but … Judah only, 1 Kgs. 12:20.

·         he shall root up Israel out of this good land, 1 Kgs. 14:15.

·         king of Assyria … carried Israel away into Assyria, 2 Kgs. 17:6.

·         Lord rejected … Israel, 2 Kgs. 17:20 (18:11).

·         shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people, Isa. 7:8 (2 Ne. 17:8).

·         spoil of Samaria shall be taken awayIsa. 8:4 (2 Ne. 18:4).

·         Who gave Jacob for a spoil, and Israel to the robbers, Isa. 42:24.

·         I will say to the north, Give up, Isa. 43:6.

·         these shall come from … the northIsa. 49:12 (1 Ne. 21:12).

·         For a small moment have I forsaken thee, Isa. 54:7.

·         proclaim these words toward the northJer. 3:12.

·         come together out of the land of the northJer. 3:18.

·         brought up … Israel from the land of the northJer. 16:15.

·         which led … Israel out of the north country, Jer. 23:8.

·         I will bring them from the north country, Jer. 31:8.

·         Israel shall surely go into captivityAmos 7:17.

·         sift the house of Israel among all nations, Amos 9:9.

·         flee from the land of the northZech. 2:6.

·         scattered them with a whirlwind among all the nations, Zech. 7:14.

·         I will sow them among the people, Zech. 10:9.

·         I will bring them … out of AssyriaZech. 10:10.



Gathering of 10 tribes

Israel, Gathering of


Topical Guide

Israel, Gathering of

·         See also Israel, Deliverance ofIsrael, Restoration of



Remnant of 10 tribes

Israel, Remnant of


Topical Guide

Israel, Remnant of

·         See also Israel, Restoration ofIsrael, Scattering of



Restoration of 10 tribes

Israel, Restoration of

·         See also Israel, Gathering ofIsrael, Remnant of


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Earth, Cleansing of

·         neither will I again smite any more every thing living, Gen. 8:21.

·         neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth, Gen. 9:11.

·         he shall destroy the sinners thereof, Isa. 13:9 (2 Ne. 23:9).

·         inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left, Isa. 24:6.

·         waters of Noah should no more go over, Isa. 54:9.

·         earth is burned at his presence, Nahum 1:5.

·         like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap, Mal. 3:2 (3 Ne. 24:2D&C 128:24).

·         day cometh, that shall burn as an oven, Mal. 4:1 (3 Ne. 25:1D&C 133:64JS—H 1:37).