Polarization events
Now we start into the polarization phase events themselves.
Each event should have a clear starting or finishing
point that can be assigned. The event may not be quite so final in and of
itself however, the event will produce a polarizing affect on individuals or
groups. No longer will one be able to sit astride the fence, or go off and play
in the forest while the train slowly lumbers on, as it was put in general
conference. (Spiritual
Revival, Glenn L. Pace; October 1992)
Polarizations / Arm of the Lord Raised
Isa 51:9, Luke
We now move into the meat of the Great and Marvelous Work of the Lord. A period
unlike any other, the period which the Jews looked to with great hope. The
prophecies dealing with this phase of the work reference the lord making bare
his arm or the arm of the Lord being made bear or being raised to a prominent
place in the view of the world. This act will cause a great polarization
throughout the world which will be everlasting and final. I call this phase of
the work the "Arm of the Lord Raised" phase to distinguish the events
that will cause the polarization phase from those that will be included in the
cleansing phase or what I call the "Arm of the Lord falls" phase (Day
of the Lord). Many of the prophecies dealing with this work move from one
phase directly into the next, some emphasizing one or the other. Looking
at the scripture references above you will see some relating to the period or
event called the "Arm of the Lord" others relating to the
"polarization" phase. I have both under the same listing
because of my belief that they are very closely related. Snap shot in
March 2022 seems like it matches a time of world wide polarization, the likes
of which I have not seen in my lifetime (possibly on the doorsteps of world
wide nuclear war) the
We may indeed be in a preparatory period of man made
polarization's that will lead directly to the Lord's polarization, yet to come,
the one which will be everlasting.
I have broken them out to help in the analysis of the events and their
timing. Much of the work will be accomplished for the Lord by servant
figures. Reference that section of this work for details.
1 Neph 22:20 And the Lord will surely aprepare a way for his people, unto the fulfilling of the words of Moses, which he spake, saying: A bprophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass that all those who will not hear that prophet shall be ccut off from among the people.
The
Marvelous Work and a Wonder / Great and
Marvelous Work
1 Neph 14:7 (Part of or same as His strange act?
Isaiah 28:21, D&C 95:4; 101:95 ) (The meat of this whole section moved to
the Day of the Lord 10/31/2018 based on 1 Neph
14:17. But the start of this phase I believe will happen prior to that.( reference 1 Neph
Prior to my discovery of Michael B Rush’s work (Nov 2022) I assumed the first glimpse
of who the Anti Christ was, would come with His participation in the Daniel 7
year period and setting up the seven year “covenant with the many”. If His take
on the Ezra Eagle prophecy is correct we may see Him prior to that when He
takes out the Eagle heads.
PWV (Pre-Wrath-View) timeline:
Overview
The "beginning of birth pains" start with
wars, famines and earthquakes around the world (Matthew 24:19). This
duration is thought to cover the first 3.5 years of Daniel's 70th week, which
starts when the Antichrist confirms or strengthens a seven year "covenant
with the many" (Daniel 9:24).
The Antichrist starts his reign with the “abomination
of desolation” (Matthew 24:15) at the midpoint of the 70th week, putting an end
to sacrifice and offering (Daniel 9:27). His reign, along with the false
prophet (Revelation 13:11), lasts for 3.5 years.
The Antichrist's rule begins the
great tribulation, a worldwide distress unequaled to any across history
(Matthew 24:21). At this time the believers of God face persecution.
During the latter half of the 3.5 years and prior to
Jesus' return, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light,
stars will fall from the sky (Joel 2:10, Matthew 24:29). In Revelation 6:12,
this coincides with the opening of the sixth seal, when the sun turns black and
the moon turns blood red.
Jesus appears coming on the clouds of the sky to all,
and angels will bring about the rapture of the Church (Matthew 24:30-31, 1
Thessalonians 4:16-17, 1 Corinthians 15:51-52). In Revelation,
his appearance is signified by the people calling out, "hide us from the
face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!" (Rev
6:12)
God's wrath falls on the remaining unbelievers,
called the "day of the Lord" (Joel 2:11). Since the Second Coming and
the rapture of the Church occur immediately before the Day of the Lord, they
occur before God’s wrath — hence, the “Prewrath
rapture” of the Church. The 7th seal encompasses the wrath of the seven
trumpets (Revelation 8:2); the seventh trumpet may represent the seven bowls of
wrath, which complete the mystery of God (Revelation 11:15).
Since the Antichrist’s reign lasts for 42 months (or
3.5 years) according to Revelation 13:5, the Antichrist’s rule ceases at the
end of the 70th week.
At the battle of Armageddon, the Antichrist and the
false prophet are defeated and cast into the lake of fire. Since the time of
the Antichrist is 1290 days according to Daniel 12:11 (30 days longer than his
42-month reign), his end is then placed 30 days after Daniel’s 70th week.
45 days after the destruction of the Antichrist,
Christ’s millennial reign is established. This is based on Daniel 12:11, which
states, “Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred
and thirty-five days.” The 45 days is derived from taking 1335 and subtracting
1260 days (42 months of Antichrist's reign) and 30 days (the end of the
Antichrist), or 1335-(1260+30)=45.
1st
half of Daniels 7 year period
Silence in heaven for the space of 1/2; hour: D&C 88:95, Rev 8:1 (Moved
from the wrath section
Brother McConkie also
leans upon the possibility that this is a 21 year period, but questions if the
tribulations come after this period, rather than occurring during the period:
"And when the Lamb "had opened the seventh seal,
there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour." If the time
here mentioned is "the Lord's time" in which one day is a thousand
years, the half hour would be some twenty-one of our years. (Abr. 3:4; 2 Pet.
3:8.) Could this be interpreted to mean that such a period will elapse after
the commencement of the seventh thousand-year period and before the outpouring
of the woes about to be named?" : Bruce R. McConkie, The Millennial Messiah, p.382
According to Orson Pratt this quiet period
requires the lack of activity even trumps and such that represent the
tribulation events. This would support Brother McConkie's
view that this period precedes the tribulation period, but that being the case
the unveiling of the Lord needs to follow the end of the silence period. To me
it makes more sense that the period is the tribulation period. Something to keep in mind. :
".."Immediately after the sounding of this trump
there will be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour.....During the
period of silence all things are perfectly still; no angels flying during that
half hour; no trumpets sounding; no noise in the heavens above; ...." : Journal of Discourses, Vol.16, p.328, Orson Pratt,
Antichrist confirms or strengthens a
seven year "covenant with the many" (Daniel
The start of the Seven Year period, start of the 3 1/2 years of false peace
First half of seven year period of the Antichrist Dan 9:27
Antichrist revealed, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war
with him? Daniel 7:24-26, 8:9-15, 8:23-25, Revelation 13:3-4
Steps leading to the rule of the Anti-Christ:
With my Previous view of Sixth and Seventh seal events I assumed all of the events in the sixth seal will need to be fulfilled prior to the reign of the Anti-Christ however we may get a glimpse of Him during the sixth seal. I think He will play a role in the establishment of the society that will require the mark of the beast. With the sixth trump we have an identification of the three unclean spirits. Will the sixth trump start the sequence listed in Daniel 11?
let's
take a look at the basic flow from Daniel; Daniel 11:6 And in the end of years
they shall join themselves together; for the king's daughter of the south shall
come to the king of the north to make an agreement: but she shall not retain
the power of the arm; neither shall he stand, nor his arm: but she shall be
given up, and they that brought her, and he that begat her, and he that
strengthened her in [these] times. Daniel 11:20-21...Then shall stand up in his
estate a raiser of taxes [in] the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he
shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle. And in his estate shall
stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honor of the kingdom:
but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
Revelation 13:4 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the
beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who
is able to make war with him?
Ezra Eagle view: If the Michael Rush view plays out to be the correct interpretation of Ezra’s eagle prophecy we should see the Anti-Christ soon.
Daniel’s king
of the North is the 1st eagle head (One of three making up the
Secret Combinations) which takes over the United States government at the end
of Biden’s office (the 2nd short feather
on the left of the eagle has a term shorter than the 1st short
feather, Trump, so it needs to end prior to Jan 2025)
Eagle kingdom
is the same as Dan 11:15 and
Dan 7:7, Rev
17:12-14 ten horns (Not ruling now
The 1st
dies in bed (in pain: poisoned???) and the 2nd Head takes over and
retreats to the
Dan
One of my Older possible takes: In Nov 2018 I came across the
works of Joel Richardson (pen name) regarding Daniel. His view of the Iron
kingdom (Daniel 2) and the Beast (Daniel 7) and the Goat (Daniel 8) Bring a new framework to look at
Daniel 11. According to His work both the legs of Iron and feet of Iron mixed
with Clay and the beast are Islam/Caliphate related not
The establishment of the government of
A woman
("the church of God"!) gives birth to a man child ("the kingdom
of our God and his Christ" which shall hold sway during the Millennial
Era, the kingdom John has just seen in vision!). See Rev. 11:14-19. Such is the
Prophet's inspired interpretation. Among Biblical scholars of the world, the
man child is presumed to be Christ, a speculative conclusion which, though
seemingly persuasive, is refuted by the obvious fact that the Church did not
bring forth Christ; he is the Creator of the Church. Among Latter-day Saint
scriptural exegetes, it is not uncommon to say that the man child is the
priesthood, a seemingly persuasive speculation, which again however must be
rejected by the same line of reasoning. The Church did not bring forth the
priesthood, but the priesthood is the power that brought the Church into
being." (Bruce R. McConkie, Doctrinal New
Testament Commentary, Vol.3, p.517)
According
to the Joseph Smith translation the child represents the
"The
Church of Jesus Christ will produce this government and cause it to grow and
spread, and it will shield round about the church." (page 130, Opening the
seven seals, Richard D. Draper)
When does this happen? According to Monte S. Nyman and
Robert L. Millet, the first few verses in Rev 12 are talking about the original
church and the taking up of the child after his birth represent the period of
apostasy.
"Now
the imagery is consistent and logical. Eventually there will be a political
kingdom led by Jesus Christ which will rule all nations with the word of God.
That political kingdom will grow out of, and is made possible by (that is, is
given birth by) the Church of Jesus Christ. And since the creation of the
political kingdom of Christ signals the end to the kingdoms of the world, it is
little wonder that Satan seeks to destroy the man child. During the meridian of
time, the Church was not able to bring forth that political kingdom, but itself
was taken into the wilderness, or went into apostasy (see JST Revelation 12:14;
D&C 86:3). The man child, or the political kingdom was thus taken to heaven
to await the day of the Restoration." (Monte S. Nyman and Robert L.
Millet, The Joseph Smith Translation, p.267)
Orson Hyde looking at this revelation also saw a latter-day application.
"The
woman spoken of by John the Revelator as being driven or fleeing into the
wilderness, after having brought forth the man-child, is said to be the Church
by our wise orthodox commentators upon holy writ. Be it so. The
Latter-Day Saints fled from the face of the serpent monster into this vast
wilderness and desert, and it appears the serpent cast out a flood of water
from his mouth to destroy the woman. This is highly figurative language;
yet is there any one present who can favour us with a
better solution of the matter than the waters or troops which the United States
are now sending here to destroy us? God grant that the earth and the
heavens also may help the woman!" (Journal of Discourses, Vol.5, p.140,
Orson Hyde)
Possibly both apply, so let's look at the return of the child. It would seem
obvious that if the time in the wilderness represent the dark ages then the
return of the child could come with the restoration of the priesthood, but with
a full understanding that the child represent the theocratic form of
government, I would guess that we are still waiting for His return. Just a note
here on the time frame in the wilderness the JST changes 1260 days to 1260
years. My research shows both applications being used however the dark age
application is the most prevalent.
"The government was a theocracy; they had God to make
their laws, and men chosen by Him to administer them.. . . [They were led] in
both civil and ecclesiastical affairs.. . . So will it be when the purposes of
God shall be accomplished: when "The Lord shall be King over the whole
earth" and "Jerusalem His throne." …..This is a preciously
limited description of Joseph Smith's precise ideas of the nature of the
Kingdom and he knew it, for he said a month later: "I have the whole plan
of the Kingdom before me, and no other person has." (Andrew F. Ehat. It Seems Like Heaven Began on Earth. BYU Studies,
Vol. 20, No. 3, p.254-255)
It's clear that Joseph smith saw the time when the governments of man, having
fallen short, would be replaced. I think it is also clear that the vision that
the prophet had not only included the United States but was also centered on
it. John Taylor further clarifies this idea with the following statement:
"…That the nations, having lost the Spirit of God, will
assemble to fight against the Lord's people, being full of the spirit of
unrighteousness, and opposed to the rule and government of God."
(John Taylor, The
With the previous event I speculated about the United Order being set up to
deal with the new society. My concern was with the ability to buy, sale
and trade but could the world reach a point where the whole World has adopted a
corrupt government? Will the establishment of this form of
Government be installed to deal with the period envisioned by Brother McConkie? let's take a look at His definition:
"…. in due course the Lord will make a full end of all
nations. (D. & C. 87:6.) Then civil government as found in all the kingdoms
of this present world will cease, and the theocratic millennial administration
will begin in which the government of God will be both spiritual and
temporal." (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon
Doctrine, p.145)
We can assume that this form of government will be in place for the time when
others who will not take the mark of the beast flee to Zion to take part in the
new government for safety reasons not religion. Our task is to identify when
in this list of events that begins. It is my understanding that Rev 12 is not
contiguous as far as the sequence of events goes with chapter 11, rather John
starts anew with the latter-day vision and provides more detail on the events
that are to happen. (See page 126, Opening the seven seals, Richard D. Draper)
We open chapter 12 up with a view of the Church, the birth of the new
theocratic government and the dragon in opposition to it. Where in the timeline
this happens is not clear to me. This event may need to be included as an event
in the Great and Marvelous work and might also belong in the seventh seal.
Michael Rush’s take is that the return of the lost
10 tribes will bring the birth of this child.
They are the one that have been taken and will return…
Mark
of the Beast (666) A society in which you must belong in order to buy sale or
trade: Rev. 13:17
This is an event that some have claimed started with the
introduction of the Social Security system with its assigned number. Others
have sited the Bar code system as being the fulfillment of this prophecy. I
will not debate these speculative thoughts at this time. We need only asked can
one buy, sale or trade in the world without them? When the time comes that
generally accepted commerce is no longer conducted without some type of mark or
affiliation then the event can be marked as happened. When this does
happen, could it be that the church tells the members to not participate in
this society? And as a result the United Order is set up to deal with the
removal from the society. I continue with my speculation to add the following
question of what will the response from the world be to this type of action?
Would they label us as religious fanatics of the type that require elimination
for the good of society? Could this lead us to the next few events?
The
believing/unbelieving of the house of Israel rebuild the Temple in the Old
Jerusalem. (Prior to the PWV rework this section was part of the GMW. It
may still belong there. For now it is here needed for the next section
and looking at current events (August 2017) I don’t think the temple will be
re-built until the peace treaty is in place.)
This is a topic that requires close examination. At first
look, and based on the current reality in Jerusalem, this seems like an easy
take. The Jews will rebuild the Temple as old (Non-LDS Jews rebuilding the Old
Temple). Also comments from Wilford Woodruff backs
this up.
"… the Jews have got to gather to their own land in
unbelief. They will go and rebuild Jerusalem and their temple. …They do not
believe in Jesus of Nazareth now, nor ever will, until he comes and sets his
foot on Mount Olivet and it cleaves in twain, one part going towards the east,
and the other towards the west. ….. They will remain in unbelief until that
day. This is one of the events that will transpire in the latter
day." (Wilford Woodruff. The Discourses of
Wilford Woodruff. p.118 - p.119)
Intellectually the Jews re-building the old temple is the correct
take on this. The statement by Wilford Woodruff
"They will remain in unbelief until that day" will be addressed later
in this section. In order to look at the whole picture let's continue our
search. Richard and Jessica Draper have taken a look at the doctrine as
understood during the Nauvoo period of the Church;
"Of special note is the insistence that they return to
rebuild not only the city but the temple as well. However, the building of a
temple by the Jews is problematic. The declaration by the Quorum of the Twelve
seems to authorize them to begin the project. ….. Only Latter-day Saints would
build such a temple. A solution to that problem can be realized if Latter-day
Saints of Jewish descent build the temple under the direction and authority of
the First Presidency." (Richard D. Draper and Jessica E. Draper. The
Gathering of the Jews as Understood in the Nauvoo Period. Regional Studies,
Illinois, p.147)
According to the full text comment quoted above Joseph was
not talking about the New Jerusalem but the Old. Further comments from Bro. McConkie also spell this out quite clearly.
"… the great gathering which
will involve the ultimate conversion and sanctification of the chosen of
From this we add the understanding that the people building the
"…. And so it is that the Jews shall build their
temple, and the Jews who do it will be Mormons; they will be Jews who are the
converted and baptized saints of the latter days." (Bruce R. McConkie. The Mortal Messiah. Vol. 1, p.116)
It is clear what Brother McConkie believed in this
regard. Brother McConkie further explains His belief
and adds, what I think, are insightful comments as to what is going on here
that may help resolve the whole topic:
"Who are those "that are far off" who shall
come to Jerusalem to build the house of the Lord? … There is only one place
under the whole heavens where the keys of temple building are found. … The
temple in Jerusalem will not be built by Jews who have assembled there for
political purposes as at present. … The temple in Jerusalem will be built by
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. " (Bruce R. McConkie. The Millennial Messiah. p.279 - p.280)
They key point from the full article is the identification of
two groups of Jews (Members of the House of Israel, from the tribe of
"… The Jews, as an assembled people, will hear again
the testimony of legal administrators bearing record that salvation is in
Christ and in his gospel. Who will these witnesses be? … they will be members
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is reasonable to
suppose… that they will be two members of the Council of the Twelve or of the
First Presidency of the Church." (Bruce R. McConkie.
The Millennial Messiah. p.390)
As I recall there is a good migration that brings all of the comments above
together. It goes something like this. Most of the House of Israel gathered in
Jerusalem will remain unbelievers until Christ returns to the Mount of Olives
after the 3 1/2 year war. However a small group of LDS will
be in their midst (To include the two Prophets) who may be instrumental in
rebuilding the
Well more food for thought than most would like
regarding this, and the speculation is much deeper and darker than most are
willing to admit. My guess is that in the end we will have a Hitchcockest twist bringing all of this into one complete
whole.
The
sons of Levi make an offering: Daniel
Now
let's take a look at this from different angles here. If the formerly proposed
Mosaic is correct and the House of Israel has been restored to a prominent role
(a key part of the GMW) and as part of that, the Tribe of Levi officially
recognized as the guardian of Aaronic Priesthood
rights, then the restoration of animal sacrifice would be done "in
righteousness" as stated in D&C 13:1, 3 Neph
24:2-4. However if what Daniel saw is an event not recognized by the proper
authority ( I.E. the Jews in Jerusalem rebuild their Temple and start sacrifice
again as in olden times) then the "in righteousness" portion would
need to wait until after official recognition and might not happen until after
the full second coming of Christ to the Mt. of Olivet.
The restoration of the Tribe of Levi to its role is a
significant event one which will change much of the Church as we have come to
know it. Maybe this will come at a time when many things will change and be
lost in the grand shuffle that will be the millennial period but gone will be
the days of young men moving up through the ranks of the Aaronic
priesthood. The "in righteousness" event will mark the end of that
period of time. Once again the tribe of Levi will take their role as
administers in the priesthood of Church Administration. The Melchizedek
Priesthood will be on the earth until Christ comes and takes control of the
Church during the Millennium, but the Aaronic priesthood
will be limited to the tribe of Levi once the ""offering in
righteousness" event takes place.
I assumed this event would have two key components the beginning and the
end. The beginning (the restoration of sacrifice) would mark the end of
the period in which the Aaronic Priesthood is given
to all worthy males within the Church when it qualifies as having been done
"in righteousness". If the end of the Aaronic
Priesthood does happen at the same time of the restoration of the sacrifice of
animals, (meaning it is recognized by the proper authority) by the Tribe of
Levi, then that event should be easy to identify.
I guess it comes down to this question; When will the Tribe of Levi be cleansed
such that their offering will qualify as being "in righteousness"?
Does this happen at Adam-Ondi-Ahman (AOA)? (For
continuity of the Mosaic I will assume that it does and the restoration of the
Tribe of Israel has taken place during the first stages of the GMW and the
Tribe of Levi is now authorized at AOA to do the work . note: This section moved from prior to AOA to just after
based on this assumption on
Some time after the restoration of animal sacrifice we will see it come to an end.
Let’s take a moment to look at the restoration of animal sacrifice. I know many
in the Church have a problem with this concept. Yes it is true that Christ
ended the practice of animal sacrifice with the ultimate atoning sacrifice. But
as Joseph Smith pointed out during the dispensation of the fullness of times
all things will be restored. Joseph Smith pointing out the method of sacrifice
and made it clear that animal sacrifice as practiced since the time of Adam
will continue (be restored).
"It is a very prevalent opinion that the sacrifices
which were offered were entirely consumed. This was not the case; if you read
Leviticus, second chap., second and third verses, you will observe that the
priests took a part as a memorial and offered it up before the Lord, while the
remainder was kept for the maintenance of the priests; so that the offerings
and sacrifices are not all consumed upon the altar--but the blood is sprinkled,
and the fat and certain other portions are consumed.
These sacrifices, as well as every ordinance belonging to the Priesthood, will,
when the Temple of the Lord shall be built, and the sons of Levi be purified,
be fully restored and attended to in all their powers, ramifications, and
blessings. This ever did and ever will exist when the powers of the Melchisedek Priesthood are sufficiently manifest; else how
can the restitution of all things spoken of by the holy Prophets be brought to pass?It is not to be understood that the law of Moses will
be established again with all its rites and variety of ceremonies; this has
never been spoken of by the Prophets; but those things which existed prior to
Moses' day, namely, sacrifice, will be continued." History of the Church,
Vol.4, Ch.11, p.211,(Jospeh Smith Jr. History of the
Church, Volume 4 Deseret Book Company.: Salt
Lake City, Utah. 1978)
In researching this topic you will find many comments that the covenants made
in the current LDS Temple, concerning sacrifice, are all that will be
required. Based on other quotes, like the one above, I believe that the
actual restoration of animal sacrifice will be practiced by the tribe of
Levi. Now this event will have a beginning and an end that mark specific
and significant changes. The ending of the sacrifice will start a clock
counting down 3.5 years until another key event the Abomination of Desolation.
(Daniel 12:11)
Now looking at the full event, beginning and end,
Let’s try to understand the timing of the event. Where should this event fall
in the timeline?
Looking wholly at the Daniel and Revelations
sequence, that frame this item, I find it difficult to place the sequence
anyplace other than the last days prior to the Battle of Armageddon. I do
agree that portions of the sequence do have a fulfillment around 70 AD (See
section below dealing with the Abomination of Desolation). Keeping on the
topic of the offerings to be righteously given by the tribe of Levi, as part of
the dispensation of the fullness of times, we must look at the total mosaic.
From Daniel 12:11 we know that between the time that the sacrifice is taken
away and the Abomination of Desolation is set up it will be 3.5 years or 1290
days. So let’s take a look at the surrounding pieces of the mosaic.
Since the time of the destruction of the
(Originally I had this event at the beginning of
the Seven year period of Daniel, however I moved it to
just after the building/re-building of the New Jerusalem and old
This should be two events, one marking the
restoration of offerings by the tribe of Levi and the other marking the end of
the offerings and the beginning of the 3.5 year clock of the Abomination of
Desolation. Until I have a clear understanding on the latter I will keep
the marker for both events collocated. (8/8/17 PWV move based on the fact
that at the Mid Trib. When the Anti-Christ sets
himself up as God.. The offerings are ended….)
Mother
of Abominations makes war with the Saints: 1 Neph
14:13, Revelation 12:17, Dan 7:21-25 (part
of D&C 112:25 "And upon my house shall it begin, and from my
house shall it go forth ?)
Notice Daniel 7:21-22. I want to move this event to a
place later on in the work but find myself placing it here based on Daniel’s
vision. The little horn makes war with the saints and prevails against
them until the Ancient of Days comes.
(From my previous view ……I placed that event within the
cleansing phase well before Adam Ondi Ahman. So I’m thinking that this event needs to
happen prior to the cleansing period in enough time to allow the war to
progress to a point where the Saints will be overcome. The other reason for
placing it here and probably the main reason is the logical sequence from the
mark of the beast, removal of the saints and now reprisal for their actions.
Whenever this happens you will see a change from our current situation, indeed
the current trend will be completely reversed. We now enjoy the greatest
time of peace, in general, that the Church has ever seen. Under President
Hinckley’s direction we have come to a point that the Church is generally
accepted in most countries and only in the tightest groups rejected
openly. This event will be the realization of that all coming apart. We
know that the Great and
Michael Rush’s take is that the Mother of Abominations is the
un-elected 3 headed eagle that take over the United states and wages world wide
war starting in America upon the saints (I say that that war has begun with Obama’s third term (Biden) and
the take that religious groups are the true threat to their democracy
(democracy defined as equity through Marxist doctrine)) …
Flee unto Zion/ The might of Zion shall go forth: 2 Neph 27:3, D&C 45:68-71, 75; 115:6; 133:12, Isa 2:3-4, 29:8
In
fleshing out the gathering out theme in the 5CP web site,
I have come to understand that the meat of what we should look for is found in
latter-day revelation like the Book of Mormon (BOM) and D&C. The Bible,
being a
A question I have (Clint) is: will people who
Flee unto
And it shall come to pass that the righteous shall be gathered out from among all nations, and shall come to
he will preserve the righteous, 1 Ne.
call on the name of their God for protection, 3 Ne. 4:30.
New Jerusalem … a place of safety for the saints, D&C 45:
66 And it
shall be called the aNew Jerusalem, a bland of cpeace, a city of drefuge, a place of esafety for the saints of the Most High
God;
67 And the aglory of the Lord shall be there, and
the bterror of
the Lord also shall be there, insomuch that the wicked will not come unto it,
and it shall be called
68 And it
shall come to pass among the wicked, that every man that will not take his
sword against his aneighbor must needs flee unto bZion for safety.
69 And
there shall be agathered unto
it out of every bnation under
heaven; and it shall be the only people that shall not be at cwar one with another.
70 And it
shall be said among the wicked: Let us not go up to battle against
saints also shall hardly escape; nevertheless, I, the
Lord, am with them, D&C 63:34.
…
gathering of elect to
prepare for tribulation, D&C 29:8.
…
·
New
·
wheat to be gathered from among tares, D&C 86:7.
telestial heirs will not be gathered with Saints, D&C 76:102.
……I will bring you out from the people, and will agather you out of the
countries…”Ezekiel
…
… In this way, the stakes of
Michael Rush’s take is that the returning 10 tribes provide the might here
Five Cities speak
the language of
I know this event seems odd to most, however I feel that it
has significant meaning. Does this represent the gathering of covenant people
or a group that actually speak the language of
Also could the study of Hebrew provide insight into what it
takes to qualify for special treatment (those gathered out, Church of the
firstborn, etc.) The Aleph Tav
אֵת
(Alpha Omega) sign (left out of
translations) might provide key insight into what it takes to qualify (valid
covenant relationships: a covenant people אֶתְכֶ֔ם) and the opposite, those left under the
covenant curse as in Zephaniah 3.
The anchor point
According
to the
Abomination of Desolation: :Dan 11:31,
What
is the Abomination of Desolation? To answer this question we must first focus
on the placement of the quote. My intent is to limit this to the latter day
scenario, in and around the Battle of Armageddon. I'm not sure which
application Daniel used/saw this term in but the Lord has used it in two
different applications. This can cause a lot of wasted effort debating the
issue. To avoid this let’s try to frame the discussion. It is clear that there
was an event that met the prophecy of Daniel around 70 AD. It was the act that
led to the ultimate destruction of
"The "abomination of desolation" cited by the
Lord from the prophecy by Daniel was strictly fulfilled in the investment of
Again to eliminate debate let's acknowledge the fulfillment
of this prophecy with the 70 AD destruction of the
A piece from Keith Perkins also adds more to consider;
"…. In an earlier account of the Savior's prophecy
concerning what was coming upon Jerusalem, Luke records, "Thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass
thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the
ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one
stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time
of thy visitation" (Luke 19:43-44)." (Keith W. Perkins. The Joseph Smith Translation. Ed. Monte
The statement of "they shall not leave one stone upon
another" I think points to the 70 AD event. let's
now look at clarifications that lead us to the latter-day application. George
Horton points out;
"The Joseph Smith-Matthew account reveals two
distinct periods of time being that are not recognized in the King James
edition of Matthew. In the King James Version, Matthew's account appears
slightly out of sequence. …The account in Joseph Smith-Matthew makes it
abundantly clear that the events noted through verse 20 relate to the early
apostolic dispensation. The rest of the chapter refers to latter-day happenings.
….. Joseph Smith-Matthew clearly implies that some events mentioned will take
place both in the meridian of time and again in the latter-day dispensation,
thus revealing the dual nature of the prophecy." (George A. Horton,
Jr. The
And also from Bruce R. McConkie' we have:
"Daniel spoke prophetically of a day when there would
be "the abomination that maketh desolate"
(Dan.
Such is the case. These conditions of desolation, born of abomination and
wickedness, were to occur twice in fulfilment of
Daniel's words. The first was to be when the Roman legions under Titus, in 70
A.D., laid siege to Jerusalem, destroying and scattering the people, leaving
not one stone upon another in the desecrated temple, and spreading such terror
and devastation as has seldom if ever been equalled
on earth. Of those days Moses had foretold that the straitness
of the siege would cause parents to eat their own children and great loathing
and evil to abound. (Deut. 28.)
And of the same events our Lord was led to say: "For then, in those days,
shall be great tribulation on the Jews, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem,
such as was not before sent upon Israel, of God, since the beginning of their
kingdom until this time; no, nor ever shall be sent again upon Israel. And
except those days should be shortened, there should none of their flesh be
saved." (Jos. Smith 1:12-20.)
Then, speaking of the last days, of the days following the restoration of the
gospel and its declaration "for a witness unto all nations," our Lord
said: "And again shall the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel
the prophet, be fulfilled." (Jos. Smith 1:31-32.) That is: Jerusalem again
will be under siege ("For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to
battle"); again the severity of the siege and the extremities of brutal
conflict, born of wickedness and abomination, will lead to great devastation
and desolation ("and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and
the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity"). (Zech. 14.) It will be during this siege that Christ will
come, the wicked will be destroyed, and the millennial era commenced."
(Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.12 ABOMINATION
OF DESOLATION)
We now understand that there are two applications of this
phrase. let's continue our review with an
article by Perkins;
"Once again there will be the abomination of
desolation which was predicted by Daniel …. This will undoubtedly be the time
when the two prophets (not young missionaries, but General Authorities who hold
the sealing power) will be killed, left to lie in the streets for three and
one-half days, and then be resurrected." (Keith W. Perkins. The Joseph Smith Translation. Ed. Monte
Perkins ties this event with the role of the two prophets
during the battle of Armageddon. So what is the future event? let's take a look.
"In the language of the Scriptures, any object or
custom, that is detested or disliked for religious reasons, is called an
abomination.. " (Reynolds and Sjodahl,
Commentary on the Book of Mormon, Vol. 1., p.224)
So the event will be something that is detested or is
disliked for religious reasons. Brother McConkie
adds to the description;
"… All the desolation and waste which attended the
former destruction of
The past events will be a prelude to the coming event.
At this point the whole world will be at war, with
"….. Solomon's Temple was in each case, as it had
been in Jewish times, the last redoubt; there alone neither side gave or asked
for quarter; it was the ultimate all-out objective, and each conqueror in turn
entered the holy place with songs of apocalyptic joy." (Hugh Nibley. Collected Works of Hugh Nibley. Vol. 4, Ch. 9, p.405 - p.406)
Let's consider the temple as the focal spot and the idea of
profane feet in the
"The servants of the Lord are called upon to warn the
world and to set forth, clearly and understandingly, the "desolation of
abomination" in the last days. …. It is, in other words, sin and
transgression, and especially the profanation of sacred things, for in the wake
of sin follows destruction, sooner or later. When the Roman standards were
planted on the battlements of the sacred precincts, desolation was near, but
those pagan insignia were but symbolical of the apostasy that had taken place,
which was the abomination which caused desolation." (Hyrum M. Smith
and Janne M Sjodahl. Doctrine and Covenants Commentary, Sec. 84,
p.524)
So in summary, this will be an event that is in opposition to
religious belief, an event focused on the Temple, in fact within the Temple, in
which someone or something will be set in the Temple, Like the Roman standards
of old, will be the event. I look for the Antichrist setting
himself up in the
Adam-Ondi-Ahman ( Ancient of Days Sits
): Dan 7:9,22, D&C 116
There is little written about this key event. We do
know that there will be an accounting of stewardships given at this time. John
Taylor talked about this event and provides the following insight.;
"Those under the authorities of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints have to give an account of their transactions to
those who direct them in the priesthood….Joseph delivers his authority to
Peter…. and Peter to Moses and Elias, who endowed him with this authority on
the Mount; and they to those from whom they received them." (John Taylor. The
So we understand that a council will be held and an
accounting will be given to those from whom were received their
authority. Brother McConkie also talks of the
144,000 being in attendance. To me this event winds up the final act of man and
sets the stage for the period when the Lord will preach His own sermon.
Now as a preface of the Lords work let's take a look at
another 6th seal event yet to happen. Many in the Church believe that we are
into the seventh seal. How can we not be? The seals represent 1000 year
periods and we are now (At the time of this entry) into 2003. We must clearly
be into the seventh 1000 year period of the earth. Much analysis has been done
around the seven seals and the periods they represent. Many were looking
at this anslysis and expecting a great number of
events to unfold in and around the 2000/2001 time frame. I must admit
that when we are looking at 1000 years what is five or
ten years. We must also keep in mind the following advice provided by
Bro. McConkie.
"It is not possible for us, in our present relatively
low state of spiritual understanding, to specify the exact chronology of all
the events that shall attend the Second Coming. Nearly all of the prophetic word relative to our Lord's return links various events
together without reference to the order of their occurrence. Indeed, the same
scriptural language is often used to describe similar events that will take
place at different times. Thus, in the midst of prophetic pronouncements
relative to "the day of the Lord's vengeance," when "the
indignation of the Lord" shall fall "upon all nations, and his fury
upon all their armies," Isaiah says: "And all the host of heaven
shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll."
(Isa. 34:2-8.) In speaking of that which shall
transpire during "the sixth seal" -- that is, during the sixth
one-thousand-year period of the earth's temporal continuance, which is the era
in which we now live -- John tells us of an earthquake, of the sun and moon
being darkened, and of the stars falling upon the earth. Then he says:
"And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every
mountain and island were moved out of their places." It is "the great
day of his wrath." (Rev. 6:12-17.) Later John
says that during "the seventh seal," and thus in a day yet to be,
"there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour." (Rev.
8:1.)" (Bruce R. McConkie. The Millennial
Messiah, p.635)
First Fruits /Rapture
Four trumps of the resurrection
Rapture:
Math 24:31, 1 Thes 4:15-18, D&C 45:45, 88:96,
Saints Caught up/ Morning of the first resurrection, First Fruits, angels
Trump; Math 24:39-42, Luke 17:29-36, 1 Thes
4:16-17, 1 Cor 15:51-52, D&C 45:45-46,
D&C 88:96. 133:56.
Take
note of the placement of this event. Many believe there will be a rapture that
will preclude having to go through the refiner's fire (Pre-Tribulation).
Nelson Walters, (Rapture: Case Closed?, page 113)
attributes this view to Three scriptures,
So who
qualifies for this? Many Christians are counting on this event and look
forward to this day. Who will be included in those who are caught up (raptured) ? My studies to date
reflect an understanding that it is they who qualify for the Celestial Kingdom
(by qualify I do not limit it to those who have completed all the necessary
requirements but also include the good men of the living who would have
done so if given the opportunity as understood in D&C 137:7-8 )
There is limited LDS material dealing with this topic but in line with
Brother McConkies teachings those qualifying for
lower kingdoms will not be present at the beginning of the Millenium
and thus would not qualify for this event. (Current understanding: The
"Church" will be The Church of the Firstborn, the saints who have the
mark in their forehead (אֵ֥ת
:Aleph Tav (Alpha and Amega): text hidden in the original Hebrew identifies who
qualifies for the mark, and in and of itself is a mark) Revelation 7:3; 9:4; 14:1; 22:4... More to follow as it becomes available. Also see section
below: Wicked burned ...)
According
to Steve Cioccolanti
(Discover
Ministries: Discover.org.au) The last trumpet spoken
of is not the trumpets of revelations but the last trump of the feast of
trumpets , Yom Teruah or Rosh Hashannah,
it falls on the first day of Etanim, (also known
traditionally as Tishri) which is the seventh month (I.E. September 14
2015) on the Jewish lunar Calendar. If He is accurate then we have a
fixed date assigned to the rapture. He also looks for this to happen
prior to the tribulation events.
Looking at a statement by Willford Woodruff
(Journal of Discourses 18:192) "...there must be
a place of safety for the people of God while his judgments are abroad in the
earth, for the judgments of God will visit the earth.." looks like the Pre-Tribulation option is off the table.
2nd
half of Daniels 7 year period / Great tribulation/Wrath of God
This whole section became a mid tribulation looking
section based on the Rapture’s placement by the
Second half of the seven year period, start of the 3 1/2 years of war of the
Antichrist:
Battle of Armageddon (Gog and Magog ) 3 1/2 year RELIGIOUS
war: ( Start of) : Ezek 38, Joel 3, Zech 14
Many Christian groups view the battle of Gog and Magog as a separate event from the Battle of Armageddon. As you can see from the Manual below the LDS take is they are the same event.
“The
“…….It is not surprising,
considering its great importance in the winding-up scenes of the earth’s telestial existence, to find that the prophets, ancient and
modern, have spoken at great lengths and in much detail about this final war
that will usher in the Millennium. Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel,
Zechariah, John, Joseph Smith, and others have all talked
about the battle and the events associated with it. Elder Joseph Fielding
Smith, after quoting from several of these prophets, said: “Now I have read
these passages of Scripture from these various prophets. Here you will find
Isaiah saying the Lord will pour out war upon all the world; Jeremiah saying
the same thing and speaking of these terrible things; Daniel saying so; Ezekiel
saying so. We find Joel, Zephaniah, Zechariah, all proclaiming that in this
last day, the day when the sun shall be darkened and the moon turned to blood
and the stars fall from heaven, that the nations of
the earth would gather against
“One thing we are given by these
prophets definitely to understand is that the great last conflict before Christ
shall come will end at the siege of
“So we are given to understand that when the armies gather
in Palestine will be the time when the Lord shall come in judgment and to make
the eventful decision which will confound the enemies of his people and
establish them in their ancient land forever.” (Doctrines of Salvation, 3:46–47.)
Obviously, this is an event of
great importance to the world, and the Lord has given a wealth of detail so
that those who will listen can be prepared and comforted as the greatest war in
the history of the world begins to unfold.
According to the
prophets, some important events must take place before the battle actually
begins:
1.
The house of
2.
The
3.
The land will become highly productive
and fruitful, even like the Garden of Eden (see Ezekiel 36:8, 29–30, 34–35).
4.
There will be one nation in the
5.
6.
7.
A great combination of organizations
serving Satan will arise in the last days. This combination has several names:
the “beast … out of the sea” (Revelation 13:1), representing the kingdoms of the
earth (see JST, Revelation 13:1; 17:8–14; Bruce R. McConkie, Doctrinal New Testament Commentary3:520); the “great
and abominable church,” “the church of the devil,” “the great whore,” and “the
mother of … abominations” (Revelation 17:1, 5).
Elder George Q. Morris of
the Quorum of the Twelve stated that some of the totalitarian regimes of the
20th century were part of this coalition:
“The Savior recognized the
domination of Satan over the world generally, and called him the prince of the
world, but in a special way—in the way that Brother [Ezra Taft] Benson has
referred to—he has entered into the politics of the world among the nations of
the world, and already subjugated about one billion people of the world, and by
a dire, sanguinary, and deadly philosophy has brought death to millions and has
brought slavery to almost a billion people.” (In Conference Report, Apr. 1960,
p. 100.)
Ezekiel and Jeremiah
indicated areas that will be involved and named Israel as the target of the
war:
1.
Ezekiel named Gog
of the
2.
Ezekiel named
These designations refer to general areas of the ancient
world, so a list of modern nations fighting in Armageddon cannot be compiled
from these sources. Elder Bruce R. McConkie
said: “The prophecies do not name the modern nations which will be fighting for
and against Israel, but the designation Gog and Magog is given to the combination of nations which are
seeking to overthrow and destroy the remnant of the Lord’s chosen seed.” (Mormon Doctrine,p. 298.)
3.
The prophets agreed that all nations
should be joined in this alliance in one way or another (see Jeremiah 25:26; Joel 3:1; Zechariah 14:2; Revelation 16:14).
4.
The strategic objective of this great and
evil alliance is clearly the nation of Israel (see Ezekiel 38:8, 15–16; Joel 2:1; 3:1–2; Zechariah 14:2).
…………
The two prophets, lying dead in the streets of Jerusalem,
will be resurrected in the sight of the people (see Revelation 11:11–12): “After three days and a half,
on a sudden, the spirit of life from God will enter them; they will arise and
stand upon their feet, and great fear will fall upon them that see them. And then
they shall hear a voice from heaven saying, ‘Come up hither,’ and they will
ascend up to heaven in a cloud, with their enemies beholding them.” (Pratt, Voice of Warning, p. 33.)……… [Christ’s] next
appearance [after coming to his temple] will be among the distressed and nearly
vanquished sons of Judah. At the crisis of their fate, when the hostile troops
of several nations are ravaging the city and all the horrors of war are
overwhelming the people of Jerusalem, he will set his feet upon the Mount of Olives,
which will cleave and part asunder at his touch. Attended by a host from
heaven, he will overthrow and destroy the combined armies of the Gentiles, and
appear to the worshipping Jews as the mighty Deliverer and Conquerer
so long expected by their race; and while love, gratitude, awe, and admiration
swell their bosoms, the Deliverer will show them the tokens of his crucifixion
and disclose himself as Jesus of Nazareth, whom they had reviled and whom their
fathers put to death. Then will unbelief depart from their souls, and ‘the
blindness in part which has happened unto Israel’ be removed.” (“The Second
Advent,” Millennial Star, 10 Sept. 1859,
pp. 582–83.)
Armageddon signals the end of the world, which is
defined as “the destruction of the wicked” (JS—M 1:4). But it prepares the way for the ushering
in of the millennial reign of Christ and the era of peace that will endure for
a thousand years. Mankind will enter a remarkable period of righteousness,
health, education, prosperity, and security. (see Isaiah 65:17–25; Zechariah 14:9, 16–20; D&C 84:98–102; 101:23–24; 133:52–56.)
The millennial era could not begin without the widespread destruction of the wicked. Therefore, while the battle of Armageddon is in and of itself a thing horrible to contemplate, it is necessary because of the wickedness of the world, and ultimately it will play an important part in the Lord’s plan for redemption of the world. President Joseph Fielding Smith observed:…”
Book
of Isaiah made plain: 2 Neph 25:7-8
Two Prophets in Israel (two witnesses): Revelation 11, D&C 77:15
This
is the start of the 3 1/2 year period of the two Servants (Prophets)
Neal A. Maxwell, Things As They Really Are, p.94 -
p.95
Consider, too, as a part of those engulfing and ending episodes the parallel
accounts of the two prophets who will testify in Jerusalem in the last bloody
and climactic days there. John speaks of two witnesses, duly appointed
emissaries of the Lord and of his church, who will witness to the besieged city
and then will be slain: "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of
the great city . . . three days and a half." (Revelation 11:8-9.) Joseph
Smith identified these two individuals in a revelation given in 1832 as being
"two prophets that are to be raised up to the Jewish nation in the last
days, at the time of the restoration, and to prophesy to the Jews after they
are gathered and have built the city of Jerusalem in the land of their
fathers." (D&C 77:15.) Here we see once again the tight fit and
perfect matching that carries on from prophet to prophet. Should we be
surprised?
Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon
Doctrine, p.733 SIGNS OF THE TIMES
48. SPECIAL
Bruce R. McConkie,
The Millennial Messiah, p.390
In this setting, however, the word that comes from the Lord is: "I will
give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two
hundred and three score days, clothed in sackcloth." Who are these
witnesses, and when will they prophesy? "They are two prophets that are to
be raised up to the Jewish nation in the last days, at the time of the
restoration, and to prophesy to the Jews after they are gathered and have built
the city of Jerusalem in the land of their fathers." (D&C 77:15.)
Their ministry will take place after the latter-day temple has been built in
Old Jerusalem, after some of the Jews who dwell there have been converted, and
just before Armageddon and the return of the Lord Jesus. How long will they
minister in Jerusalem and in the Holy Land? For three and a half years, the
precise time spent by the Lord in his ministry to the ancient Jews. The Jews,
as an assembled people, will hear again the testimony of legal administrators
bearing record that salvation is in Christ and in his gospel. Who will these
witnesses be? We do not know, except that they will be followers of Joseph
Smith; they will hold the holy Melchizedek Priesthood; they will be members of
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is reasonable to suppose,
knowing how the Lord has always dealt with his people in all ages, that they
will be two members of the Council of the Twelve or of the First Presidency of
the Church.
FARMS, Journal of Book of Mormon Studies, Vol.4, Number 2, p.153
....... John the Revelator told of "two prophets that are to be raised up
to the Jewish nation in the last days" (D&C 77:15; see Revelation
11:3–12), likely "members of the Council of the Twelve or of the First
Presidency of the Church,"5 to testify of their wickedness. Their words
too would torment carnal minds until the only resort for those who will not
heed their counsel to repent is to kill the prophets. In this case as well, the
wicked people will feel they are free from the hard truth, even so much as to
send gifts to each other commemorating the slayings (Revelation 11:10). Once
again they will be wrong, though, as "after three days and an half the
Spirit of life from God [enters] into them" possibly by one holding the
keys of resurrection exercising that power, "and they [the two prophets]
stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them [the wicked people who had
slain them or consented to their death] which saw them" (Revelation
11:11). "What happens when the murdered do not stay dead? The ultimate
power of the unrighteous fails, and with it all other forms of coercion and
intimidation."6
https://www.lds.org/manual/old-testament-student-manual-kings-malachi/enrichment-i?lang=eng
“,,,After a struggle of three
years and a half, they [Gog’s army] will at length
succeed in destroying these two prophets and then overrunning much of the city”
Rainbow: :Gen. 9:12-13: The rainbow will be taken from the sky (HC 6:254)
Now
a look at a little know event. I have yet to see this included on other
Last-Day's events but it is of such a magnitude that I feel it needs to be
included. let's review that which was given to Jospeh
Smith;
" I have asked of the Lord concerning His coming; and
while asking the Lord, He gave a sign and said, "In the days of Noah I set
a bow in the heavens as a sign and token that in any year that the bow should
be seen the Lord would not come; but there should be seed time and harvest
during that year: but whenever you see the bow withdrawn, it shall be a token
that there shall be famine, pestilence, and great distress among the nations,
and that the coming of the Messiah is not far distant." (Joseph
Smith Jr.. History of the Church. Vol. 6, Ch. 10, p.254)
The question that arises is, will this be limited to a region
on the earth or will it be world wide? If world wide the magnitude of the
event will not be debated, indeed it would play right into the view of events
portrayed by Anthony Larson ( See reference material section of this
work). There would be little question to the beginning of this event,
either lack of moisture in the air or sunshine is what it would take to fulfill
this worldwide. A catastrophic event like being hit by a comet would fit
the bill. Or a nuclear winter would also do the trick. This little
event I think should stand out in the mosaic like a beacon.